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Some World Problems Beyond the Solution of Man Evening
darshan, Rajpur, September 23, 1970 We have our
problems in America. Problems are
everywhere. Prejudices are everywhere. Not only in America but everywhere.
Problems are sometimes man made, sometimes unavoidable. What are the problems
over there? Convey some of them to me. In America we
have racial problems that seem to be coming to a boil now. And also there seems
to be a great problems as far as confrontation between the generations is
concerned. It's
everywhere, but in an advance country like America, it should be less there. And we also
have a current problem of inflation. Man will have
to learn at a very high cost in due course. They will come round, but at a very
high cost, I tell you. These things lead where? To destruction. Don’t you think
so? In due course, when these things so go on from day to day, more and more,
they result in destruction. Too many conflicts will arise. It is growing more
and more. Right understanding is the only remedy. Unless you come to that,
there is no peace. Man is being divided, more and more. He is a man first; then
the religious label he is carrying, then his racial label, then from which
country he comes –so much splitting up. These atom bombs are waiting. God
forbid. This is high time for right understanding. The new age question is
coming up among the young. There is awakening, but they require right guidance.
Papers, television, radio, they can do much to ameliorate the false position
–but they are also going the same narrow way. If general right understanding as
an idea is put before people –they try to publish these things in a very sweet
way – I think that night have a good effect, a better effect, to put down these
conflicts. There are political restrictions between countries; there are
language restrictions, and racial restrictions, as you say. Truly speaking, all
this trouble has passed beyond our care. We can only pray, “Oh God, the world
is aflame, it is past our care, we cannot do anything about it. You condescend
to send down some grace to set it right.” Let God save us in any way he likes.
We want betterment just now. From day these things are growing worse and worse,
tighter everywhere. Is there an
explosion coming up soon? If the trend
goes on like this, there will be an inevitable result. If God sends some grace
in any way he likes to set this right . . . . . . Otherwise it is past our care, the care of human beings. Every
day tensions are growing more and more. The good we are trying to do is like
pouring water into sand –it is just like that. Unless grace comes down from
heaven, from God –that’s the only remedy. They say the golden age will arise
from the Iron Age. There is an awakening. With his grace it may become more. It
might meet it to some extent. Every country is wanting peace, and yet they
prepare themselves for war. Military expenditures –every country is trying to
have atom bomb; many have it already. Is India trying
to have an atom bomb? They say they
are not after it, but if there is an increase in nuclear arms, they will have
it to at least their lives. This is what they said publicly, “We are not after
it; we are not after the atom bomb.” Well, I pray God send his grace. It is
past our care already, honestly speaking. It's taking
more grace from God these days then it has in the past then? Surely. And
still more grace is required to put down all these trouble, which are growing
more and more. Is that’s
additional grace going to be forthcoming? What goes out
is the heart of the afflicted people, naturally that is sent by God. After all,
we are all his children. But suck like affairs are doomed, I would say,
irremediable. They are trying, but with all that, they are preparing themselves
for a war –as it appears on the face of it. In some places the difficulties are
communism; they are provincial or national or racial. And these problems are
everywhere. Since we’ve
been here for the past three weeks, I haven’t followed the newspapers at all,
and I don’t know how peace talks are seeming along. [The Vietnam peace talk
then being held in Paris.] Actually what
we say we should do, we should live, and then it's all right. They talk of
peace but are sending more and more on genocide day to day. Don’t you think so? Lots spent on armaments, yes. If they talk of
peace, let them also have less armaments. More than half of the income of a
country is spent on that, even more than half. And if this was spent for the
good of the people, then? We are all brothers. Each country should advance as
much as possible and be a source of help to others. You strengthen yourself and
let others also have strength. In addition to individual karma, I suppose there is national karma as well? Haven’t you
read it in the wheel of life? I mentioned it there. Is the Master Power going to stop this explosion, which seems so evitable? Many will be
saved who turn their faces to Him. That’s all I can say. The only thing is, we
say something and then do something else. That’s the trouble. If the government
really wants peace, then where’s the trouble? They should avoid encroaching on
the rights of others; live and let others live; make their country so advance
and peace giving that everybody else would like to come there. Now there are
restrictions. You cannot go out from one country into another without a visa.
You cannot leave a country without a passport. So these are strongholds, is it
not so? We go around like prisoners. When I returned from the 1963 tour, the
airplane was not in order; we had to stay in cario. So we were restrained . . .
. . . “All right, leave all your baggage’s, all your passports. “ if we had to
go to the bank, there were two soldiers with bayonets this side, and two that
side –to go to the bank! This is our fate. Just think . . . . . if your visa
has expired, they won't let you leave the ship. You will be turned back form
the port. This is what is happening. Rusel jaque [the author of Gurudev] came
to India. Perhaps you might have heard about him. He has written one or two
books. He has stayed in the ashrams. His visa expired. Then he had to send it
to Burma, the other side. Then again he wanted to extend his stay. He applied
for it and by the time the sanction arrived, his time had expired the day
before. So he was turned out of India. The sanction did not arrived a day
earlier, that’s all . . . . . true mirror of the fate of the country! He could
not remain because the sanction did not arrive at Calcutta in time. It was only
a day late. I sent him a wire, but he could not stay. This is a very ordinary
incident I am quoting. There are more, graver than that. There are so
many governments. Each man should keep his country in a blooming state, let
anybody come in freely and enjoy it, and then help others bring up their
governments in the same blooming state. That should be the attitude. You're painting a very dismal state of affairs tonight. Can’t you offer any hope? This is hope:
there are Saints, of course. Those who turned their faces to Him, who stand at
his door. . . . but I'm talking of the
general state of affairs. The trend in which it is going will end in disaster,
headlong down daily. They speak of peace, they speak with their lips, but they
act otherwise. “Mohammedan countries
from an aliens.” “All Christians countries form an aliens.” There's trouble
going on everywhere. In India too we have got the provincial troubles. Wheat
has been sold at Bombay say at one hundred rupees a manual [about eighty two
pounds]; the same wheat is sold here, thirty rupees; the same, but one province
will not let others help. The same wheat in Pakistan is sold at a much cheaper
rate. If we think we are all one then where
is the trouble? Right understanding is required; there's no other
remedy; and his grace. This is what the Master did in the past. They went out
and age people right understanding and also “Wake up.” Anyway it has passed out
of the hands of the son of man, that much is sure. Now it is 1970. don’t you
think in twenty or thirty years we’ll be in ore trouble, if it goes like that?
But there is awakening also. There is a good sign. They are having
confects to bring all religions together. And the religions are forming
pillars; and now the further trends is,
we should have all world religions united –a world organization. Each religion,
whatever they give you, the basic message remains the same. What are wanted are
reformers, not of others, but of themselves. Let us reform our countries. If we are going to reform our countries, it means we are going to have to get into political action. Is this the time for that? I mean, as opposed to reforming ourselves? Politics cannot
be reformed. Here in India we have more political parties than in other
countries where they have only two or three; here we have about nine or ten.
Now I've found the remedy for that –for instance the Delhi area consists of
five or six areas; in each of those areas I went out and gave a talk. I told
them, whether you are a Hindu, Mohammed dean, or Sikh, you are all brothers,
you live together. Be responsible for the honor, daughters and mothers. Be
responsible for the life and wealth of others. Those who are sick should be
helped; those who are in need should be helped –all should be looked after in
your area. If anybody is not good, try to reform him, and similarly, if you do
that all over India, let the world governments change or remain the same; what
is it to you? If wife and husband go on amicably, what has the emperor got to
do with it? Advocate social rather then political action? Yes, that you
can do. That is in your hands. You suggest that people of integrity should stand for office, should be voted for, and that would imply perhaps satsangis. And yet on the other hand, satsangis, you say, should indulge more in social action than in standing for office. All are satsangis.
Some have been put on the way, have been given a touch inside, but they are
still yet to become full blooming satsangis. All are satsangis; some have got
ingress, others have not, but the truth is there. All ministers, everyone,
should resign for three months before voting. Then you should vote for the man
of integrity. He must have some background of service, selfless service. If he
is chosen from any party. Those who are chosen because of their party, they
fight for the party . and who is in trouble? This is what has happened –and is
still going on. And who is in trouble? This is what has conviction: government
of the people, by the people , for the people , for the good of the people. And
once they are chosen, if they have not proved up to the mark, they should be
recalled –even the government will also change. You cannot turn out those who have been chosen now, can
you? No. They continue, maybe doing good, maybe bad; they fight for their
parties standing against others because they belong to that party. So I think
this appears to be a very common sense remedy. I'm not a political man, I tell
you. They select me everywhere; all men are dragging me for so many things.
They have faith in me; they know what change in ten years if we go on like that?
If they're not change, even then we can still live amicably. Just have that
inner way. So reformers will come up that way. This is the way to develop the
golden age of the Iron Age –with his grace of course. Pray for it. Both political and social reforms then are needed the golden age comes? That will
inevitably result if you do these things; even the government can change by
voting. But they're not after change, you see. Do you think that today’s youth is fundamentally idealistic enough to bring about the changes that you suggest? They eat right
guidance only, now. They’ve got no right guidance. They are after , it that
urge is within them, but they are not given right guidance. If they are given
this, naturally they’ll take a change in hand in five to ten years. I don’t
know if anybody’s going to tell them these things. Do you think these things can be told in the regular media of the day –the regular newspaper? Where’s the
harm in it? man is a free thinker. Government might impose, that’s another thing. But this is the only way. Before
voting, all should resign. Then there’ll be fair voting. Now these parties
while In Power, in chit, exercise every influence to be voted in again by the
people. Only those who are men of integrity, those who have got some background
of selfless service, when chosen, should serve. If he's in America, first serve
America, not the party. Now parties are fighting like anything , as I tell you.
If two bullocks are fighting , the crops are spoilt. I get in trouble when I use the word satsangi, but should we assume that initiates should not run for office? If they're
chosen they can behave as I have explained. How does it go against initiation?
You wish good for all, is it not so? If such like people were really initiates,
and they're really on the way, they're
selfless, they're honest, they’ve got higher, spiritual strength –they’ll work
wonders. I think it would be just wonderful; but would it take away from spiritual development? My Lord, how
long do you put in for meditation out of twenty four hours? You put in two or
three hours. In the rest of the twenty four hours, how many do you put into
your work? Put in some time the right way. You're giving yourself in the
scarifies of others. When a brick is well baked, you can use it anywhere –it
will make a strong wall. If a man is
changed, he will work wonders in any line he chooses. We’ve not to stay away
and live in the forests. This is very common sense. To me it appears like that,
may be not to many. But ass a free man I think you'll agree. Politicians are the worst people. They are chosen
by us. You curse yourself; why did you choose them? I say sometimes people when
the government is bad, who is the cause of it?
you! Why do you vote for the wrong person? So for the future , don’t do
it. If they cannot come round before that period, whatever they're chosen for,
three or five years, after that, don’t put such people back in office. That’s
your responsibility. Now people are in every country it's like that. They're
fighting like anything among themselves. Where as all this is meant for the
good of the country. With all good wishes, they're splitting up the country.
Don’t you think physical, mundane , and political problems could easily be
solved in the spiritual way? I think it's a wonderful concept –I don’t think I've ever heard you say before that initiates should get themselves thus involved In actions of the world. I've never said they shouldn’t. we are not to
leave the world and go to the forest . we’ve come here to live –we have to
learn swimming in water, not on dry land. When everything goes with your will
and pleasure, whereas the difficulty in you being very calm and quite; that is
wonderful. For that you’ve got the Bread of life; it helps you spiritually but also
physically, intellectually, socially and politically – everywhere. Socially, I don’t know; I mean in certain social groups I'm aware of, I don’t know how endeared being an initiates make you to members of those social groups. You have something to give to your spirit, to
give you strength spiritually. If you're weak, have good food, have exercise;
it does affect your work –that makes you stronger, is it not so? Now we are
amputated men. Physically we are developed, intellectually we are developed, and
spiritually we are nowhere. On spiritual health depends the life of mind and
body both. This is a very important phase of life. everybody is groaning,
crying against governments, this and that –who is at the back of it? those who
are crying. So you see, spiritual life does not stand in the way of service,
genuine service to society, to the country, to the world. When we talk
like this, time flies. Anyway is a very important subject. You told me you had
so many problems; we’ve been talking them over. If you had not mentioned them,
naturally, I would not have talked about them. The remedy for all problems I
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