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The Ultimate: Full Surrender

 

                Evening darshan, September 8, 1970

 

We are recording everything. Do you mind?

 

No, something substantive, that should be recorded. Not everything  . . . . . . How did you pass your day today? Very busy in doing?

 

Well, we did some shopping and now we will do no more of that. We got it out of the way. We finished.

 

That is all right. So from tomorrow you will be regular in your meditations.

 

Yes, sir.

 

Tomorrow morning you can go there (the room for meditations), sit down at 7:30. I will come there I will finish here at nine. Up to nine you will have sufficient time for meditation. That I often do also. Have you any subject now for discussion?

 

A thing I have hope for some time is that we could ask you a question such as they asked Jesus, “Lord, if we should pray, how should we pray?” and then he presented the Lord prayer. If we asked you that question, what would you say?

 

I have great regard for Jesus. Jesus was Jesus. He said, “I am a son of man; of course, God is working through Me.” that all right. He gave an answer that was quite appropriate according to the level of us more worldly people who think and pray, “God give us this day our daily Bread.” But there are different levels of prayers. I have discussed that point in the book prayer. There have been such like people who pray, “Oh, God we want nothing more than this: we want one mare to ride on, a house to live in, so much to eat and so much to drink, and this and that thing. This is not taxing. If you cannot afford it, we cannot pray.” Some address God like that. This is the ABC; it is from the level of man. That is all right. Ultimately they pray, “thy kingdom come on earth.” We worldly people need everything. In my book you will find this point brought out very clearly. Perhaps the average man wants not less than two hundred dollars a month; “this is really what I want. If you cannot give it, I cannot give it, I cannot pray,” says. That is from the angle of a worldly man. But ultimately as you progress on the way you will surrender everything. The tithe system has been with us from time immemorial. So first you will give one tenth, then you will give more, then more, then everything to him. In the beginning our Master used to give tithe of his income to the Master who would use it for the good of the people. Then when he progressed, he gave all of his income to the Master feet and he progressed, he gave sell of his income to the Master feet and he (baba jaimal Singh) would send income for the use of sawan Singh family. This is the ultimate.

 

But from the level of the worldly men, that prayer is good. Other Master and Saints have also given out prayers like that. So that prayer benefits worldly men like us.

 

Like us?

 

Like us: I am only a worldly man, you see. I cannot be cast out from the man body; I am a man too, like you. That is a man, you see. That God Power is making the best use of it. When the rider is good –has two feet strongly in the stirrups –that pays, benefits us. He is safe. So a worldly man needs everything; but as we progress we surrender everything to Him. Ultimately we say, “If you give, that’s all right;

 

  . . . . . . If you don’t give, even that makes no difference; even then we are satisfied. “That’s the ultimate –full surrender. You’ll find that given out very clearly in the book prayer. I 've got a copy from America.

 

We start by asking things from God, but the real prayer is when we surrender everything to God.

 

Yes. “If you give or not, that’s all right.”

 

Let me give you an example. I don’t say it fits the situation in the West but it does in the East. A newly married woman goes to her husband; at first, she says, “Well I want this, I want that.” It’s but natural. Then she thinks, “He loves me.” when a wife knows that her husband loves her, she will think, “I want this. If he gives it to me, all right; if not, all right.” She does not sulk, “You must give me this and that thing, and otherwise I can’t go on.” The lowest form of prayer is as I told you, “I want this, I want that, otherwise I cannot pray. I cannot live.” To ask: “give us our daily Bread” –this is normal. The times come when the wife sees: “my husband loves me even in rags and torn cloths. He sees my conditions and he does not buy me new cloths, but he must love me; if these torn rags appeal to him, all right. The only thing is, I must be loved by him.” This is the ultimate goal. “If he want to see me in this state and he is pleased with that; if he knows he sees and does not give me anything, it means I am pleasing to him in that manner. There are stages.

 

The ultimate evidently has been reached in the East, but in the West we have a complicated factor: advertising. The wife perhaps listens to televisions or radio and finds out that she really should have this desire and that desire, and . . . . .

 

That is in the beginning. That’s quite elementary. As a son of man, you see, everybody wants something. But when a woman comes in contact with somebody who has chosen her as a companion for life, for weal or woe, then she should win his pleasure. Even if she wants something and he cannot give, she will be satisfied. In the time of Father Abraham, the slaves were brought. He brought a slave, brought him, home, and asked him, “Where will you sit?” “I am bought; wherever you will make me sit.” “What will you eat?” there is no question of my desire; I am bought –whatever you will feed me.” Father Abraham sighed. “Oh God, he is a good servant of yours. I am not.” So this is the ultimate.

 

We have a new factor in the West that enters in, called women’s liberation, in which they don’t believe in accommodating themselves to the husband the way that you’ve discussed.

 

Strictly speaking, husband and wives should have equal rights. But they must be one soul in two bodies. Otherwise there’s no good family life. God has united them as a matter of reaction of the past. Now I am speaking very strictly according to principles. You don’t mind that? According to principle to principles when a man takes a wife and they want to leave each other, then even if the wife remarries of the husband remarries, they are both adulterers. These are the words of Moses. We fall short of these commandments. And there is real happiness only when one is attached to one person thought life. In India this has been trouble arises. “All right, I'll go (for a divorce),” the wife or husband, says. So whereas the peace? No peace. After six years just see them. One son has been born here, another is born here, and another is born there.  Who claims them? Very difficult situation, I would say. India has been proverbial for family stability, but this disease has now also crept in here too. Divorced people think they are advanced. To my mind, they have degraded themselves by this level of thinking. So there is actually no permanent peace, union, or integration. You follow me? We also have divorced courts in India now –not many, but still they have been started; it is the nations loss. In the West you’ll find that trouble arises every day. There are very few who are sincere to each other. God has united you as a reaction of the past, so let God disunite. Both of you should go together as equal; both united together, not as slave –I don’t mean that –but as equal united. So marriage means taking a companion in life that will be with us in weal or woe in our earthly sojourn, and we should help each other to meet God. One duty may be of begging children. But if divorced comes, they say: “this is my son; you can keep that son.” all this trouble is going on. First a son is living with his Father; two years later he is living with his mother. Excuse me if I say, there is no sincerity. Divorced is one of the main causes of trouble in the West. It has crept into India too. I am sorry to say. The Mohammedan also allow it, with some restrictions. A man wanting a divorce gives notice for three months, then reconsiders for six months –that is the rule. Then after one year or so if he and his wife cannot be reconciled, they are divorced. At the time of divorced the man pays something. You see? This is what mohammadism has got.  In Hinduism that has not been the custom. You may approve of divorced, but say evil has crept in there, too. If a man consider he has got. In Hinduism that has not been the custom. You may prove of divorced, but I say evil has crept in here too. If a man consider he has to, he will adjust. In my letters, you'll find the advice, “try to adjust please.” And many couple, after having applied for divorced, have returned to each other. Now they are living a good life. When once you think that you both have way, and there will be no peaceful, be loving, adjust, and control yourself.” And to the wife, “if your husband hates you, you must be sincere.” I’ve found in May cases they’ve come back to a normal life. So every day, try to adjust.

 

As it is, a young man gets married. After two years he divorced; he takes another wife, and the wife takes a husband. After two more years he gets another divorced. Every time he has to remarry he has to take the role of a young man against; he is never out of the sensual life. I’m pointing this out from the spiritual point of view. So these are very strict orders I am giving you; if those who are divorced remarry, both are adulteress. You see you cannot stamp out a good or evil altogether, but we have to take such a recourse in which there are more goods as compared with evil. Married couple should say, “You and I have to carry on somehow; we haven’t adjust yet. We will try to ad jest.” But if one partner threatens divorced, then the other will retaliate. That is not the way; there will be no peace with all these frivolous thoughts hunting your brain. I am just explaining from the practical point of view that is all. Once I had a very long corresponding on this subject. There are some genuine cases too, but they are very few, very few, not like what goes no now. Now everybody with a little excuse can say, “I am going to divorce you.” How can you love two men at a time or two wives at a time? After all, there are some obligations. I am not talking deep philosophy, only common sense. There is more peace that way. I now find those who have come in contact with me through correspondence are changed. Those who had already taken recourse to divorce, that was too late, but those who were intending to divorce; they have changed their minds. Now they have comparatively peaceful lives. To give you an example: if you have one bangle may be of iron or gold, that won't make you any noise. But if there are two or three, they will always be jingling. One heart attached to so many places –experience whereas the very important, a very important, a very grave question to consider. I am sorry this evil has crept into India too. Even now it affect, I think ten percent of all marriage. You see, once a custom starts, it continues. It will take time, but what they have started will spoil the whole thing. In case of family planning, India has the highest birthrate now.

 

In India one sees billboards everywhere advertising family planning. Do you approve of it?

 

Truly speaking, I don’ through; they spoil it. I am not in favor of family planning. I tell you honestly. the point is, to conserve that Power helps you physically, intellectually and spiritually. We fall down every moment. I have put one column in ht diary for chastity of thought, word, and deed. In this point, I’ve made it clear what I think . . . . . . .

 

All right, tomorrow morning you may meditate at seven thirty over there. If you call, me, I will come about none or thirty. Then in the evening we’ll have a heart-to heart talk. Now if you don’t mind, I’ll attend to them. [So many Indian initiates are waiting to see their beloved Master.]  Good night you all.

 



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