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4 Evening
darshan, September 9, 1970, sawan asram A number of the Master who preceded you –swamiji, babaji and your own Master sawan Singh all left writing behind them or reports or records. How accurate and how pure are those records today? Truly speaking,
you see, this [successor ship] is not a thing to be passed on through papers.
It is not like land or other things which are passed on through papers. It is
something passed on through the eyes. Passed on through papers. It is sometimes
passed on through the eyes. So Master never do that [passed successor ship
through papers. They’ve never done it. Well, I mean the writing they left behind. How accurate is it? Why should it tax us? Sar bachan, for example, and some of the other books. These books are
there, of course, there are two parts of sar bachan. One is a collection of
poems. One is in prose. Some of the poetry is by swami Ji himself. And the
other part is from rai saligram. Both are combined together and are know as sar
bachan. The prose portion is not the direct statement of swamiji and was
detailed to convey what was spoken there, a third person conveying the talks
given by swamiji to rai saligram. So the prose part is that. Was rai saligram a Saint? Yes, surly, he
was very he was very advance. There were three disciple of swamiji. One was
baba jaimal Singh who was very much advanced in meditation. He went to the
highest. Rai saligram was a very loving and devoted disciple. And there was one
sadhus. Rai saligram remained at Agra along with swamiji wife and baba jaimal
Singh was detailed to come to the Punjab and continue swamiji work. Therefore
this line was continue through baba jaimal Singh, baba sawan Singh and still
continues. Now swamiji is passed on . . . . .with due deference the only
criterion is what you get. If a man gets that much it is all creditable; it is
for the people to see not for anyone else to judge. With due deference they
were the three prominent disciple of swamiji. So now generally these things are
passed on through eyes; not through papers. It is not any land or house or
anything like that to be passed on. Of course, these things [land, house] are
passed on through papers, but this is a gift of he soul through the soul. The man is
trained all through life to be prepared. Everything is in the make. One day
doesn’t make a man a Saint. All through life he is being made. Then there comes
a time when it is passed on. “Well, all right, continue on. There’s not too much point reading what they’ve left behind, then? Sometimes it
proves not useful, I wound say. I have regards for everybody. It is up to
people to judge whether they can get anything. If they get the same thing,
there can be no dispute between the givers. Maybe there are one hundred givers,
ten givers, and five givers. It’s a question of when a man is giving, all
right, well and good. I have love for them. Even though they don’t give
anything, it is for respect for all. To change the subject, someone was asking
a little bit earlier today what exactly you meant when you referred in an
earlier talk to “two soul in one body.” [On September 8th] Two souls
joined together in matrimony should feel one in two bodies. That’s all I meant.
I never meant any obsession, you see. Marriage is taking a companion in life;
they should have one thought, one word, one ideal to follow. They should not be
clashing. They should be receptive to each other. So that is what I meant, one
soul working in two bodies. It is God who unites. One is born somewhere. The
other is born somewhere else. It is the flowing pen of which unites them. When
God has united them they should work together. “Whom God unite, let no earthly
Power disunite.” So they should work as one soul in two bodies. Live an ideal
life and be of service to others also. An animal can be of service to itself to
itself but man who is of service to others as well as to himself. Your exact quote then was, “one soul in two bodies,” and not, “two souls in one body? “ No, no not
that. That becomes an obsession. Not that. Those whom God has united, should
remain together through weal or woe, both make an effort to know God. One duty
may be of begetting children. One duty.
Not all. Anyhow, it is not a machine of enjoyment. It is a sacred duty. It is a
sacrament. Is this a matter of soul mates, really? Half a soul uniting to the other true half soul? You see,
according to give and take, reactions of the past; men are brought together to
finish up their give take. Others are brought together as sons and daughters
and so on. This is just up the whole give and take. That is all. This is just phrase then, really? Yes, a phrase
just to let them know they are to work together, not disunite. Think you will
have better love this way than the other way, you see. God has united you. What
is marriage? Two souls born in different places brought together. They don’t
know each other, never dreamt of it, but they come together and become united.
From this day onward their company is sacred so that thee will be no
corruption. Because God has united them they will have more love for each
other. Try to adjust. They must be of use to others as well as to themselves.
Man is one who is of use to others also. The main ideal before us is to know
God while in the man body. Does it often follow that people who are married in this life have been married in previous lives? Maybe, but may
not be. Reincarnation is there, you see. Definitely. Some say it is not. I know
suchlike people who do remember there past birth. They gave some thing of their
past lives which has been verified. But, you can see, it all from the top of the third plane? Yes, not
before. If you knew who is who now, I'm afraid you wouldn’t like to see his
face or else you'll be more attached. The attachment already brought us here.
So it’s better not to know, and clear our way back to God, that’s all. Do we meet people from previous lives? If we meet them, do we meet them again? Is it a Patten that we keep on meeting the same people all the time? Not
necessarily. Some we meet. We have to finish our give and take in some other
garb. You see? Sometimes you say you don’t want to pay any man anything, still
he forces you; you have to pay whether you wish it or not. Sometimes you want
to help somebody but with all your goodness you try, but you cannot help him.
Sometimes you love somebody, but with all the good you do, he doesn’t love you.
So these are due to the reactions of the past. Where is the decision made as to what role we will play in a given life? On the soul the astral level or does the Master makes it from Sach Khand? The only thing,
when man and son united –this union comes as a result of the past. When they
are brought together we should be very devoted because God has united them with
you. We have been united by the decree of God, as the reactions of our past.
Wind up all reaction. So it both of them the idea before them is to know God.
Pay off all previous seeds and don’t sow new seeds to spout forth. That you do
only when you become a conscious co-worker of the divine plane. Otherwise,
every man feels he is the doer. When you are the doer then whatever you do will
react. As you sow, so shall you reap? So, If you have become conscious
co-worker of the divine plane, there will be nobody to reap, phrase? Madame blavatsky used to have this phrase, “The lords of karma.” Is that a valid phrase? “Lords of
karma” means negative Power. You see, that action reaction is after all
controlled by some Power. As you sow, naturally that bears forth fruit. So we
should be very cautious not to sow fresh seeds, new seeds, because we have to
bear the reactions. What If in spite of everything we do, we do some fresh seeds? Yes, that you
cannot differentiate now. That means we have to come back in another life? Now, as I have
said, we do not know what is the reaction of the past or what fresh deeds we
are doing. We do not know these things unless we come to the third plane. Now,
what to do? Know it is God who has united, and pay off sweetly. Adjust
yourself. Don’t think evil of others. That’s sowing a seed. In thinking evil of
others –even in thought, that is sowing the seed, tell lies, just to say
something and thought, that is sowing else, these is sowing the seeds. So you
won't have love mean something else, these are sowing seeds. So you should have
any fresh seeds. If anything comes up that will be as a reaction of the past,
you are helpless, you will have to do it. But you do not know. Even if you are
helpless, you will have to do it. But you do not know. Even if you sow fresh seeds,
new seeds, and to do it. But you do not know. Even if you sow fresh seeds, new
seeds, and you become a conscious co-worker of the divine plan, they won’t
react. They will nullify because the doer won't be there. Suppose we don’t get to that exalted state of becoming a conscious co worker of the divine plane and we do have an evil thought about somebody –in a future life, how would we have to pay that back? By them thinking evilly of us or doing an evil action toward us? If a man
becomes a conscious co worker of the divine plane, he never thinks evil of
others. When he sees he is working how can he think evil? He sees all are gods,
micro gods. That is understanding. When you get the right understanding, you
see that all mankind is one, all are soul – conscious entities in the same
controlling Power. So right understanding will result in right thoughts; right
thoughts will result in right speech and right speck will result in right
action. You cannot do otherwise. So it is always better to be guide by the Master.
He will say, “All right, adjust yourself. Cooperate to the best you can and
leave the rest to God.” if you get his guidance, it will help. Sometimes it
will help. Surrender completely is very difficult. It is better to do your best
and leave the rest to God. If you have right understanding then naturally
everything will fall off and won't be binding. The wheel of life explains in
more detail. Yes, I read it,
but I can stand reading it again, I know. Digest it more
that is all. Master teachings are sometimes given very straight; they don’t
mind whose whom. People say, “Oh Master, what is the good of our coming to you
if we have to go round on the wheel of exaction?” they say if you go to a lion
and are afraid of wheel of actions?” they say if you go to a lion and are
afraid of jackals, what is the good of it? It’s the work of the master to wind
up in his own way. Any reactions which cannot be set aside are made to
happened. Even little thought can be adjusted and those loads of wood, heaps of
wood. If you put a little spark of fire to them, all will be reduced to ashes.
Similarly, you’ve committed an ultimate number of heinous crimes in past lives;
if you have a spark of fire to them, all will be reduced to ashes. Similarly,
you put a little spark of fire to them, all will be reduced to ashes.
Similarly, you’ve committed an unlimited number of heinous crimes in past
lives; if you becomes a conscious co worker. This is something you start to
develop. That is not the end all. You see the light. Then naturally you will
have the right understanding. You'll feel buoyant to sing in an inspired way.
As a man develops he feels that way. He becomes a mouthpiece. So learned and
unload both are sinful. Even good actions are binding. Chains may be of iron of
gold. That makes no different. They are all biding. So the only way to become a
conscious co worker of the divine plane is to know that he is doing it, you are
not. You will have to become a mouthpiece of God. Master speaking as inspired
by God. And we all have to become that. There is nothing to be afraid of. Every
king wants his son to be a Saint. That is why I tell you, you are to become
ambassadors. Haven’t I done my part so far? It is you people who have to carry
on further. You are the budding hope of the coming generations, I would say. You mentioned last night that at initiation as is just about always the case, approximately one third or a little bit more of the initiation saw the Master within. Does that mean at that moment when they did that they became conscious co worker of God and will always be regarded as such? That experience
Singh something to show that the Power is within you always watching your every
action, whether you see it or not. Then you always watching your experience
action, whether you see it or not. Then you have to develop. Talk to Him
consciously. And that Power talks within, Master does talk. Yesterday at
initiation I asked if Master talked to anybody –”Yes” one person told me. That was only
to show that there is something. People don’t believe there is anything inside.
They say, “it is all dark; what is it, it is all blurred what is in there?”
thank God, people are having proof of this Power. You cannot prove
spirituality. Go anywhere, the other gurus simply say, “go on doing this, go on
doing this, go on doing that, you'll have it. “ but a bird in hand is better
than two in the bush. So Master gives you something to prove that there is
something inside and you testifies yourself that you’ve seen. When you have seen, then there is no
evidence required from anybody else. Everybody has his own development but
everybody gets something, some conviction that you see words of the Master
unless you are convinced yourself. You do see. Maybe little or more. That is to
be developed. Well, if you
don’t believe in the words of the Master before you have an experience you have
a lot of trouble having the experience, don’t you? I tell you, no.
But are there. A learned and unlearned man both have to do the same thing. An
unleaded man does not require any rules or any evidence from the past Master,
this and that –he doesn’t care. The learned man would like to know whether it
is true, whether anybody else also bears testimony to it; he is taught very
cautiously. There is a building with hundreds of stars to reach up to the top.
There are two men; one is learned, the other is unlearned. They are told, “All
right you go up to the roof and you will see the sun rising.” The unlearned
starts going up. And the other one says, “How many steps are there? My foot
might slip down. What will be the proof that I will be saved?” then he goes up
ten steps and says, “Oh, there’s no light, how do you know there will be light?
“ you see? As you near the top, you have some light. When you go up, you'll
see. That’s all. It is something like that. Two men, one learned and the other
unlearned, both went to a Master. To the unlearned man he said, “ all right,
I’ll charged you a double fee.” Why? “Because I first have to make you
unlearned and double fee.” Why? “Because I first have to make you unlearned and
then you can start. I will have to do this by explaining this and that thing,”
one lady came to me: “’I don’t want any theory, give me experience.” she got an
experience. Children see
Light. They don’t want any theories or any discussions or what one Master said
or what the other said. They simply sit and see Light. That’s a boost given by
Master. That’s the only criterion of judging whether a man really has
something. It is a start when you rise above body consciousness. Where all
world philosophies end, there the religion starts. “Remember” means back,
“Lego” to bind. People have forgotten, you see. They’re giving their whole time
to singing, lightening candles, this and that thing. That’s all right. That’s
preparation of the ground: good actions. But you are the doer. First see and
then say. The difference between a Saint and others men is that he sees and
then says. The other men do not see;
they simply read and say. So any one can say, “God is light, “saying “God is
Light” is just like a blind man saying he has seen the sun. All outer
performance of what you do are only to help you to further is no emancipate
unless you become an initiates of Saint and the criterion of a Saint is that he
must give something to start with. A man gives a very good lecture on business
lines, very wonderful, very convening, very helpful, but if the man to whom he
is talking have no money, what will he do? Talk to him, give him some capable
to start with. So he must be able to give something. Is there any proof? Where is the proof? You will find there are
hundreds of so called gurus. Most of them advanced by hypnotizing, by
mesmerizing, or by radiation. They’re also very few. Other gurus simply say,
“go on and do this, you'll have more. Be rest assured your salvation is
defined.” This won't do. This is no credit, you see, you must have cash. Do those who takes drugs such as LSD and have certain experiences, are they valid experience? No, no. They
are hallucinations. Any thought reverberating, that brings forth a hundred
times more, mind that. Why do we stop such intoxication, any intoxication;
because we are conscious beings. Anything that makes the subconscious a little
morbid we are not to use. That result in the death of soul. You follow me? Drugs results in the death of the soul? The death of
the soul, yes. Consciousness is lessened and naturally they have go on the
lower planes. That is what all this intoxication starts. What about taking LSD
then? It is still more death of the soul. There’s a great deal of talk LSD is the foundation or a basis of a religion of the future of at least an improvement on the kind of religion that is now existent. No,
no, no. It is deterioration.
Definitely going drown to beastlihood. Their consciousness is married. Animals
are also conscious. Even a snake is conscious but they have a different degree
of consciousness. Mans consciousness is very evolved. But if you use suchlike
things your consciousness is affected. If you are intoxication by such means
your consciousness is affected, and you will have to go to the lower planes. Do those who come to you from background of drug experience start then with a very definite handicap? Surely,
sometimes at initiation they are given a double sitting. They are made to sit
twice. Hitherto, men were prepared for initiation: those who came to the Master
had to live with Him for months and months? So some things are given all at
once at the start. Then it should be maintain by self introspection. It is
wonderful, of course, how we can have this on the very first day. All do get
something. Some more, other less, that’s another thing; but they do get it. It
is a special gift of God. In the Iron Age, the worst of times, still Gods grace
is more, so that many may be saved. Of course, it’s obvious that when you initiate them here that everybody is getting an experience. I mean, you can see it, you can count it, but I don’t know if that is necessary as obvious when your assistance do the initiating elsewhere. I tell you, if
the group leaders use their own ego, then they don’t succeed. But if they
become a mere channel, all get it. I receive initiation reports. Most of them a
second sitting, something when they’re fresh leaders to give them a second
sitting, something when they’re fresh and buoyant. Sometimes they’re come
running in and are made to sit. Now can they have an experience? The initiation
should be done when they’re calm and quite and when he who is just the means
becomes, a channel and is not exerting. So these things stand in the way. In my
time when Master once came to Lahore where I used to live, he initiated some
people there. Then he told me, “All rights, I have sown the seeds; you give
them water. You water them.” I told him, “Master I'm a mere pipe are only there
so that the water you send runs through them. Otherwise they are hurt. See the
goal –not the personality. I say, “All right, you can give them a sitting.” It
doesn’t mean that he is giving the initiation. The more of a channel he
becomes, the more experience they get. Sometimes they are not ready or they are
tired or they are hurried up, or the man does not surrender to the Master Power
within. That sometimes stands in the way. Some do get very wonderful
experience. Of course, here and there we find some that do not see. Then I tell
them. “Give them a second sitting.” Sometimes there’s some inaccuracy in their
doing the practice, sometimes there’s some inaccury in their dong the
practices, sometimes the instructions are given hurriedly, sometimes the
channel is just feeling that he is the boss. Then the trouble arises. Would you recommend then before person is initiated he undergo some kind of preparation for that initiation; I mean several hours of meditation or something of that Nature? You see, concentration
can be done only when you have something to stand upon in an effective way.
When you close your eyes and if you have nothing to see, to stand on, you’ve
got the darkness before you. There you'll stay like a child shut in a dark room
with the door closed; he’ll break the door, he’ll cry. So there must be
something that’s attractive and enchanting then hell not cry. So there must be
something to stand on. Most of the, excuse me for saying this, the so called
Master say, “All right, visualize my face.” But never recommended, never tell
anybody that. Why? If you visualize anybody, God forbid if he is not perfect,
then you'll become what he is. It’s very dangerous. It is very dangerous. God
is one who comes of himself. That figure that appears of itself in the calm and
quite silence in the heart, than is form God. You are not to visualize. I never
tell the people to visualize. They should pray and sit. That’s another thing.
If somebody is of a higher level than you are and you visualize him, he won't come
in fully. Some days you'll see his turban, some days his hand. Then you'll say,
“I saw him there.” The mind will be running. Those who are of you'll say, “I
saw him there.” The mind will be running. Those who are of your level or those
who are below you, you'll just think and you'll say, “I saw him there.” The
mind will be running. Those who are of your level or those who are below you,
you'll just think and you see their face. So most of the people nowadays –I've
come in touch with all these heads of religions –all tell to visualize a form.
They give you a photo. Photos are only for remembered just like a friend. What
comes of itself within and manifested, that is true. That’s the difference.
That is why my way is different. Most do see something. But they stay, and then
leave. Naturally if they don’t stay they don’t get more. You can sit down on
any chair, as a child, and you'll see his face. So light is the
only thing to stand on. What light? Not physical light but the inner Light.
That is the God into expression Power. Some people Light the candle and
visualize the candlelight. Think so the cow and the cow the cow will become a
sister, is it not? “I think of the Master, all right; he's got a very good
face, very good turban; he is a very gentle man; very elegant; he is a very
good actor.” But what he is, you see,
can be tested only by initiation. There's a very vast difference, you see.
Don’t go by propaganda. Propaganda is made when a man fears or it is incompetent.
Don’t go to such a person. I allow everybody to freely go. If you can get
something better. Then all right. Take me with you. I’ll be thankful to you. Did any body
ever volunteer to take you with them to do something better? Not so far. Not
so far. If he is better, I will go. I see by the parallel study of religions,
scriptures, as well as by sitting at my Master's feet – different Master,
seemingly advanced, Satguru at my own Master feet –that which I have seen is
true and is supported by all Master who came in the past. Why should I doubt
it? I tell them only to save them from going astray. Some people come and say,
“Oh, I have found another; highest thing.” The result is that some people do go
and they lose what they have already got. They don’t get anything further. Lose
what they have already got. Something and who were progressing. Someone said,
“Oh, there's higher place. Let’s go there.” they go there. They lose that thing
and further they do not get anything new. If welcome. When the prodigal son is
accepted, you see. Occasionally there is a disciple, is there not, who feels that he has climbed to higher areas and sets himself up as a teacher but actually is lost in the astral? Surely, you
see, nobody can boast that he knows everything. Even is we know everything –all
creation –what is it? It is one ray of thought. Is it not? Man cannot know
everything. At least that ray which is manifested somewhere can gives you
cannot with the ray within you, consciousness that’s all. No Master ever said,”
I am the doer.” He said, “God, the Father, works through me.” when he sees some
higher Power working, how can say, “I am the worker, I am the Guru, I am the
Master?” those who say that, they are not the Master. They have advanced a
little; they just try to hypnotize their followers. His followers are struck
and his own progress is retarded. He loses. It is a very dangerous way. Some of your initiates who have sought to use such Powers have had the Power taken away from them, haven’t they? They restart
their progress. You see once something is given at the feet of the Master, he
never takes it back. Sometimes he keeps something is reversed. What he has
given, he does not take back. When it’s a spiritual thing, why should again
test it? He give, but further progress is stopped and what little he has had is
lost, and he repents inside. He cannot tell anybody what his fate is. Such like
people who are initiating there, I see their diaries and I'd be very ashamed.
They become bosses. They become generals and that is the difficulty. If you
take them as the be all and end all, naturally their progress is stopped and
the initiate’s progress is also doomed. If you have got a little pond of water,
how long will it last? Have contact with somewhere where there is a perennial
source: hundreds of men drinking it won't exhaust it. But, of course, you have background with the Indian army. If you see generals who are misusing Powers of the commanders ion chief, why not remove them and; at in other generals? I tell you one
thing. This question has been put to me many times. We are to carry on with
these imperfect people. We have not to ask if they have been matriculated or
graduate. You can carry on with others progress is retarded. Go and ask them.
See their diaries. I enjoin that each man should keep them. They feel that they
are perfect, but they are not. But anyway the work has to be carried further.
Those who become a channel, progress. Thief went to a
Master who told him, “not tell lies; secondly not to steal from someone you’ve
taken food from; and thirdly, to stand up when you see others have been
martyred on account of you. These teaching you should follow.” Some days passed
and the thief was thinking, “suppose a man has got ten thousand dollars and
somebody taken away five hundred dollars: that does not affect him. The man who
has got only two hundred dollars or one hundred dollars and the whole amount is
taken away; he went to the ruler of the place. So he thought, “ I will go to
some man.” he wants to the ruler of the place. So for going to the ruler of the
place he dressed himself very nicely. Naturally, if you go to the ruler you
must be well dressed. After midnight, he came to the rich mans house and there
were guards outside who were watching. “Who are you?” they said. “I am a
thief,” he replied. He night now. How can any man with very good dressed be a
thief? He must be some near relative or friend.” So he was allowed in. he
collected all the money which he puts in one place. Then he must saw something
to eat. He took it. Now could he take the money when his Master ordered him not
to steal from whom he had taken food? So he left everything and came out at
about 3:30 or 4:00. Those who were on the watch said, “All right, he had met
his friends and is now going away.” The next morning the ruler woke up and
everything was in a pile. “What is all this? “ the thief had come, gathered
everything but did not take it away. He asked the guards, “Who came last
night?” “I tell you one man came here after midnight. He said, I am thief. Then
he went away. God knows what happened.” Next morning
they summoned all those thieves recorded by the government and began to beat
them, asking, “tell me who had stolen over there.” When the thief came to know
that others were being married for this sake, he came up, “ I am your
thief.” “ How did it happen?” “When I
first went to my Master, he gave me three instructions to follow: first, not to
tell lies; so when they said, “Who are you?” I told them I was a thief. I went
there and collected everything; then there was something I tasted. Naturally I
was not able to take what I collected everything; then there was something I
tasted. Naturally, I was not able to take what I collected because Master said,
‘don’t take from anyone who has given you food.’ Now, because others have been
beaten for nothing, for my sins, I have come forward, as he told me.” “Who is
your Guru?” the king asked. He went to him. Even if you
follow literally, you're saved. The diaries; have you seen that circular on the
diaries? “What is the use of keeping a diary?” there are three or four things
given: first of all you become regular, second, whenever you commit a sin you
confess and third, you remember the Master and God in thinking. In Christianity
you go to the minister and confess after a month or a week. So many times
during a day you confess. And so many times you remember the Master every
minute if not twice the time thing, you remember the Master so many times and
the confession washes away. |