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He Gives His Hand To Everybody

 

Evening darshan, September 1969

 

The Master comes for the sinners. He takes those who come to him, up for a while. But to stay up there requires purity. So to even the most sinful, the Master gives a boost and takes him above body consciousness, give him a peep through the door; and he sees light. Whether good or bad, sinful or virtuous, the Master gives them all first a boost to come up then, if they are not attached to the world too much become purer. So he gives his hand to everybody, even the most sinful. He loves the sinner but hates the sin. He gives all who come to him a boost and something to start with. Unless a man is raised, taken up, how can he see the Light? So when he reaches it, it is just like a man who had gone onto the roof by going up a stairs. When he gets near the roof he sees Light. When he is withdrawn from out side and rises above body consciousness, he comes nearer to the place where that door is , the tenth door, and only then is he able to see the Light. This the Master gives to everybody. But the point is, if a man is attached too much though the world, naturally he must be changed; for that reason he is asked to lead a very virtuous life. I will give you an example: now a days we have a dry cleaning, but previously the washer man used to strike the cloth against stones to take out all the filth; even it was the filthiest cloth, he did not mind. He never refused it. He took it; he just cleaned it. It was his job; he was the washer man, you see. Now the time have changed. In the olden days it was arduous work, but now a days dry cleaning (of the Master is done) by sweet ways, by inducement, by loving words.  “All right, please come up, leave all these behind. “ and spiritual diary that the initiates are all asks to keep is only meant for that purpose. But the Master gives a boost to every man. He accepts everybody. He comes for the sinners as well as the virtuous.

 

Quite a few of us here saw you give a boost to a hundred a sixty-five people the other day at their initiation. And of those, sixty three of then saw the Master inside, and others –in fact all of them –had experience of one kind or another. Would they all have had experience like that had it be a group of non-Indians?

 

All get something. Whether they are non-Indians makes no difference. When I went to the West, you know those who had been given initiation even those who where never given initiation –all receives something. My system has been to give free talks, then after that there was an hour of question. Then all where invited to come to the meditation sitting, which was usually held in the following morning?  And those who came even those not initiated –had some experience. One lady came to me she said, “I don’t want to learn any theory. Just give me an experience. “ She was given. It was the giving of the boost by helping the soul to withdraw from out side and group there. So this happened in the West also.

 

There have been some who have described the path that you teach as a science. And of course most of us think science as something that can be repeated if you follow the exact instructions. But apparently there is an added element, namely the Master. Now, doesn’t the addition of the added element take it out the realm of pure science?

 

What is the Master? He does know not the man body. It is the Power working through –that gives boost. A small child something from his Father and mother and from himself brothers. In school he learns from his teachers. Similarly, in this way, those who are adept on the way give a little way up. Not everybody can do it, only those who are competent. Of course there is nothing loss in nature. But sometimes things are quickened, just as a young fruit tree if left to Nature will take about seven or eight years to bring forth fruit, but if in scientific way it is given some scientific food, it will bear fruit in two or three years. So the way up something given by higher competent sold to help another soul to have that experience. So this has been given in the West. I went to the Athens where I gave a talk, but I did not know the Greek language. A professor there interrupted. Then after that were question and answers. At the end I told them, “All right, come to the mediation hour in the morning.” So about fifty or sixty people came; they all got an experience. Then people ran up like anything. So that professor had written a book, telling how Pythagoras used to teach the same thing, how Socrates said such and such. They have put my photo in the book and told how I have revived an ancient science. So this is something given, you see. But to maintain it, that is the pint know. We must not so much attached outside. To live a normal Life is all right. If you’re attached too much to outside things, you cannot concentration inside; you will be dragged outside. For that reason the diary system is to be maintained. As regards a Master; he someone who can give you a boost. That is the God in him, not the son of man.

 

On a less high plane, do initiates who propose others for initiation take on the part of the karma of the people they propose?

 

No, not in the list. It is only God who sends –they become only the medium. Those who are ready, God sends them, bring them in the contact through some source. They come to know through somebody, to through a newspaper or anywhere. They are brought in by him –they are brought in contact with the Master. He sanctions their initiations through somebody over there that is not there not a Master, but that Master Power works everywhere. So with a little thought he sanctions, gives them a boost over there. They get their experiences, most of them get something, if not, it is because they are either in a hurry, or they came vary tired. I then tell the grow leaders to give them another sitting when they are buoyant and fresh. So that Master Power works all through. That is the Christ Power, God, Guru Power, and Master Power.

 

My understanding of it is like if you put a little pressure on a button that controls TV and radio, the pictures and sound appears.

 

One other question, on the vegetarianism. If an initiate has the care of help less invalid in his home and invalid says, “I must have meat to eat, “ does the initiates pickup karma if he prepares meat for that invalid?

 

If he is bound by duty, he is not responsible. For instance if I am a servant to somebody, or in the army and officer orders me, “do this, “ I have to do it. For that the officer is responsible. It is the officer who gives the order, “fire” and this boy has to do it. The officer is responsible. Your bound; you cant help it. The only thing is, you must not become the doer; the its all right you are saved. Baba jaimal Singh was a military man; he served in the firing lines. He was once order to distribute meat to the regiment. He did it; he was bound by duty. When you become the doer, your are responsible. When the officer orders, “fire” –fire! It is not of your own initiating that you’re doing it. That is the main underlining thing.

 

In other words, if you are accidentally wash an ant down that drain you are not responsible, but if you deliberately do it, you are?

 

The point is even as we breathe the sin. We kill so many insects, which we may not see. So for the sake of the higher things we have to scarify to lower things. Do the minimum sin, even to eat the vegetables is a sin, I say. There is life even if in stone, as there is in vegetables, insects, eptils, birds, animals, and man. But the pint is it develops more in insects, still more in animals and birds. And his most develop is most manifested in man. All this creation is made of five elements: earth, water, fire, air and ether. In vegetables there is the least; there is one element water. If you put some vegetable in the sun, ten kilos will gradually become half a kilo, so the major portion is water. But life is there. In reptiles it is more. It is more sin to kill a reptile. There is a still more sin in killing the birds; there is still further sin in killing an animal.  If you kill a man, were life is fully manifested, you are hanged. If you kill a quadruped or some animal, you are not hanged; you have to paid the fee, the prize of it. If you kill a bird, who cares for it? You follow me? This consciousness is manifested most in man. So in man, five elements are fully developed; in animals only four of them; birds only three, in reptiles only two; in vegetables only one.  To kill an element –vegetables –enables a man to live, yet that is also a sin. So this sin cannot be escaped unless you become a consciousness co-worker of the divine plan.

 

That is most interesting phrase. What is conscious coworker of the divine plan?

 

When a man sees that he is doer, he is the controlling Power, he is the Power working manifesting in all. When he sees he is a mere puppet that means he is the conscious coworker of the divine plan. Everybody runs to do something –for instance, I will give you an example. A man is sitting at the Powerhouse. The whole machinery run by the Powerhouse. But the man is sitting in charger at the Power house sees nothing can be done without the Power. He becomes a conscious coworker when he sees the Power is working then you are not the doer. Don’t commit. You will be saved in that way.

 

And there we get right back to where we started. In order to see that Power, we have to go through the door we talked about.

 

Surely there a lift is given. The lift is given by the Master to come up there, to experience something to start with. If a man tries to remain there, he must there up to that level. Try to. Each man in the make. Hitcher to, in the olden days I tell you, men were first prepared. Only when they were ready did the Master give them something. Now those days have passed; no body can now leave with a Master for years and years and years. Now they must give something and be told to come up to the standard by self-introspection. Times have changed.

 

I believe there is a story involving either you or your own Guru sawan Singh Ji which some one came to you and said, “please lift me up.” It was a person who was not ready. And the person was lifted and got trucked by lightening. Would you talk about you?

 

No, no, not lightening. One day at Meerut a man came up for initiation. He was given a sitting, and he did not get an experience. Again gave him a sitting. But he would not leave his body; he was always conscious of the breathing, he would not leave outside things. So I told him, “ alright, you have had a sitting, I have explained what to do. If you will do it, you will have it; you will surely have it. Go and sit at home and do what I have told you. “ In the morning he came back; he had not got it. I told him, “Well look here. If you simply turn your face as I tell you, it will be easier to you. If your dragged, you will fall down and be hurt.” he said,  “no, I don’t mind. You drag me.” when he was drag a little he struck his head at the back and fell down unconscious. So that is dragging, you see? You simply turn your face that way; don’t think of the world out side, don’t think of the body below, don’t think of the breathing going on. This is the only method. Just turn you face here and you will be given. That is easier. In that case there is no anti Power working. When you are struck too fast outside in any body drags you, naturally there will be pain.

 

What happens to initiates who are given initiation, and then fail to meditate?

 

That seed is not lost. No Power can spoil it. That will grow, grow, and grow, sooner or later, when convenient circumstances arise. So such like people when they suffers some sickness, some unto word circumstances, naturally they say, “ o God, what have I done?” if a man turns, then he comes around. I have seen cases like that. My Master used to say, “I give a long rope. Let us see how far he goes.” Then with a little tug he comes and answers, you see. Even if you dies not do anything in this birth, that seed is not loss. He will reincarnate at the level of man, not below, because the seed cannot grow anywhere else. Man is in the make as I told you. Some are ready, some are not so ready. So a man who has God this seed and has perhaps done something in the past that counts to his cedars. Suppose a man leaves a school in the primary class; in the next school he won't read from the first primary again, he will start ahead. But there is something very definite, I tell you: love is great force. If you have love for the Master, even if you are a sinner, you will drag like anything. What is sin? To let you are attention be attached to the outside things –may be good or bad things, excuse me. Even if it is attached to right things, it is an impediment. You are attached! You must withdraw those who have loved for the Master, where will they go? Where the goes. But that should be the ruling passions with love and full faith –only in that case. That is rare, of course. But for those who have done a little work, it is like a canker in the wood, which sometimes eats the inner wood itself; itself outside it appears all dried. Those who are given initiation that works like a canker, I tell you. Outwardly they appear worldly, and then slowly, slowly, slowly they are detached. Towards the end they say, “ o God lead me on.” he is also coming from within; the Master is there always. We must turn our face to him, that’s all. The more receptive we become the quicker results we will have.

 

Thank you, sir.

 

All right, I also thank you for your questions.